How old were you
when your father was writing the Hardy Boys? Did he ever involve you in
the story writing or plotting?
Oh, well, he
started before I was born. He started about 1928, writing the Hardy Boys,
I was born in '31 so by the time I was 9 or 10 I was reading them. Not
knowing that he had written them. He was sworn to secrecy, actually, the
publisher Stratemeyer didn't want him revealing that he was one of the
writers. Eventually I got it out of him. He says I walked into his study
one day and said, "Well, you know, look everybody's reading those books,
are you reading them too?" He said, "I wrote them." He admonished me, he
said "don't tell your friends I wrote that nonsense." I said to him that
' we were all reading them, Dad.' He never took any claim, he was loathe
to say that they were great literature. They weren't. He knew that. They
were just a way of making money. He was so skilled at writing, he could
write so much better stuff. And I think that his CBC plays and his movie
scripts and going to write for Bonanza, some of his other works were so
much better written. I think he should be very proud of what he's done,
though, getting all these millions of kids hooked on reading. Writing adventure
stories for them.
I noticed that in your
books the boys are fans of the Hardy Boys series. You've mentioned that
you were an avid reader of the series while growing up? Did you have a
favourite?
No, I didn't
have a favourite. I just read them all. I just remember any time I had
to stay home school, if I had a stomach upset or something, when I was
allowed to stay home… It wasn't often. We could devour one of those books
in about an hour.
Have you had any occasion
to pick up a recent book? If so, what did you think of it? Do you feel
it's up to the same quality of writing of the original books?
Occasionally,
but I tend to ignore them. If I ask at a used bookstore if they have any
Hardy Boys, they always say yes, right over here, sir, but they're all
the new ones. If they don't have a red or a brown cover, I'm not interested.
I've got probably over a hundred books, for the grandchildren. I'm trying
to slowly acquire a complete collection. I don't work very hard at it.
I don't order them off the Internet or anything. I'm always surprised by
the prices that some of them go. I don't see them around like I used to
at garage sales and used bookstores.
Simon and Schuster is
currently revising the Hardy Boys series, with the results being published
next year. If you were asked, what
changes would you make to the current-day Hardy Boys?
I don't think
I would make any changes. I wouldn't have them packing guns. I think that
they should just let them stand as they are. I always feel that my dad
was always a better writer, so I wouldn't try to correct him.
Can you solve a mystery
for us? Who wrote the Hardy Boys' The Phantom Freighter? Both your father
and mother have been credited with writing it.
Not my mom.
My sister and I agree on that. We can't understand why her name is associated
with it. This came as a very big surprise in the past few years, where
suddenly it's saying that Amy McFarlane wrote the book. My sister and I
have talked on the phone about it and we say it's impossible. She would
never have written it. Only thing, Nora, my sister could say was that there
must have been a tax reason or something, where he might have wanted to
put her name on it, but I guess that will go unanswered.
Another one, you may
have seen it on the internet. My cousin said that his Uncle Les wrote the
Ted Scott series. Impossible. I don't know where he got that idea. Nowhere
does that ever show up in his records and he was meticulous in making a
list of all the things he wrote, how much he got paid. There's nothing
in there about Ted Scott. [My cousin's] passed away now and I never got
a chance to tell him. I'm angry that he would put that misinformation on
the internet. So if you ever see that, you heard it from me, he did not
write Ted Scott and my mother did not write the Phantom Freighter.
Perhaps you can also
satisfy a personal curiosity? Aunt Gertrude is probably one of the more
vividly written supporting characters in the original Hardy Boys mysteries.
Was she a creation of your father? Or was she patterned after someone he
knew?
Maybe Aunt
Alva. I can remember as a young boy whenever when Aunt Alva came it was
a big occasion. She was always packing chocolate bars for us. She was quite
a boisterous, talkative lady. It's possible that my dad might have written
Aunt Gertrude after her. More likely, he just invented her because he was
bored with the Hardy Boys brats, as he called them from time to time, and
I think it was to escape the Stratemeyer outline. They'd give them the
two-page outline to write the book and he'd say I've got to invent better
characters than what I've been given here. So out came Aunt Gertrude. I
credit my dad with creating her. I'll bet that Stratemeyer had some concerns
about her. Whether she should be in those books. Of course she should.
Marilyn Greenwald has
just written a biography about your father. Did you feel it was a very
accurate account?
Yes, my sister
is glowing in her praise for Marilyn's work. She said she got it right.
And I echo those sentiments. I feel that Marilyn did a lot of research
into this subject matter and I think "why? Why would she take my dad and
spend four years of her life tracing his history, chronicling it in a very
professional manner. Both my sister and I are very proud of the work that
Marilyn has done. There are some surprises in there. I'm reading some of
this thing and thinking that she's got a perspective on my dad that is
fresh and different. Memory plays tricks on you and sometimes you go through
your life and your parents are just there, but she's dissected the whole
situation in a very professional way. We thank Marilyn all the time for
taking the time out of her life to devote to my dad's life. It's something
my grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have as a treasure… I was
delighted with what I read.
At one time there was
news that you also intended to write your father's story. Is this still
in your plans?
I started one,
but I didn't want to trespass on Marilyn's work. I realize now that she
was willing to spend so much more time on it than I was willing to spend.
I would have written probably a more superficial biography using materials
that he had covered in Ghost of the Hardy Boys. I may pursue that eventually,
but I feel that hers is the definitive biography and mine would have suffered
by comparison, perhaps. So it's on hold.
Have you heard about
Cynthia Adams (Edward Stratemeyer's great-granddaughter) claim that the
ghostwriters merely filled out the stories the Syndicate provided? Is this
the impression you have of your father's work for the Stratemeyer Syndicate?
If you can
call a two-page outline that, [then] I guess she can claim that. I think
we know that a book isn't a two-page outline. It takes a special skill
to make it come to life and to follow a plotline.
They weren't all that
generous with their authors at $100 a book. Even if they had given them
a modest royalty or percent that would have been helpful. Or a bonus. I
think my dad got a $50 bonus when he got married. A gift. They made millions
on these books. But my dad would say, "Hey, I knew what the deal was."
I often heard him use that expression. "I'm not going to go whining and
complaining now." I often used to ask him why he didn't sue them for an
unfair contract. Surely there was a legal ground. He'd just shrug and say
"No, I knew what the deal was."
And we are all
very happy that he did accept that deal.
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Thank you, Mr.
McFarlane, for sharing your time and some wonderful anecdotes with us.
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